{"id":3300,"date":"2015-02-23T21:27:14","date_gmt":"2015-02-23T21:27:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/?p=3300"},"modified":"2015-12-24T14:30:23","modified_gmt":"2015-12-24T14:30:23","slug":"tank-manual-for-the-ato-zone-part-2-how-many-tanks-were-captured","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/tank-manual-for-the-ato-zone-part-2-how-many-tanks-were-captured\/","title":{"rendered":"Tank Manual for the ATO zone. Part 2. How Many Tanks Were Captured?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Answering a question \u201cHow many tanks does Novorossia have?\u201d Russian Wikipedia says that it has 34 captured tanks.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/119.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"280\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Is that all? Taking into account Russian propaganda about the absence of any Russian weapons supplies, that should be it. Now let\u2019s look at the facts, which are a rather more serious argument.<\/p>\n<p>The provence of the first ten \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks has already been laid out \u2013 those are old Russian T-64 and T-72 pieces. Should we add them to those 34? Of course not, since Wikipedia \u00a0covers only captured tanks. And, using videos published on the Internet showing tank columns with tanks bearing numbers 34-38, we can assume that the last number of separatists\u2019 tanks would have to be 47 (37+10). And here is when a miracle occurs: at the same time that people noticed columns of 30 tanks moving to Ukraine from the Russian direction, they included a tank with a number 65! No matter that was a T-72, it was also said to be a captured \u201cNovorossia\u201d tank. Moreover, looking at available pictures I have an impression that all of the numbers of the 50th and 60th series were painted only on T-72 tanks, which, as it is known, have never been captured from Ukraine. Wrong number, wrong tanks. It is not the first such mismatch and of course not the last one (or two)..<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/216.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"699\" height=\"529\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Moreover, during the fighting for Ilovaysk, other surprises from the Kremlin appeared on the stage \u2013 tanks T-64 bearing 100 series numbers! 101, 102 (Krasnoyarsk), 105 and 108. That is more than three times more than the stated number of captured tanks.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/313.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"823\" height=\"494\" \/><\/p>\n<p>A non-standard situation occurred with tank number 121.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/412.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"827\" height=\"211\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It seems that it used to be tank number 2. Then it was captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces and National Guard. This tank could possibly be non-transportable. And in such state it was really captured and has received number 121. Do you think that this tank joined the armed forces after it was captured? No! Another filming of separatists\u2019 tank reparation enterprise demonstrate us this tank staying inside the plant<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/510.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"818\" height=\"460\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You can look at the picture of the T-72 with the number 122. The difference can be seen very well.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/66.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"824\" height=\"464\" \/><\/p>\n<p>If anybody \u00a0remembers, I was reporting that the number of \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks was over 300 in October. Later, that guess was confirmed by Ukrainian officials. Moreover \u2013 they announced that the number of tanks in Donbas had exceeded 400 in November. Taking into consideration that no matter the statements made by Russian President, Russian Foreign Minister, Russian Defense Minister and other officials, the supply of heavy equipment was not suspended for even an hour, then this progression of tank numbers in Donbas is natural. And so in late 2014 and early 2015, PM Arseniy Yatseniuk announced that the presumable number of \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks had reached 511 (!). This resulted in statements from the Russian side \u201cThis cannot be true! How can this happen?\u201d I can afflict some news upon both the Prime-Minister of Ukraine and those who believed that his statement is not true: by Autumn, the terrorist army of the so called Luhansk People\u2019s republic already had tanks with numbers 704 and 706!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/76.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"829\" height=\"231\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It is possible that the difference of 200 tanks could be explained by attrition and with the fact that these numbers were put with regard to all available tanks, including those which are unfit for action. Those numbers are not final, either. However, keeping such a mass of tanks on the territory of two incomplete regions is a rather insecure thing. What if they get under fire? That\u2019s why a part of \u201cNovorossia\u201d group remains on Russian territory together with the regular Russian army equipment, ready for the direct invasion (when a need to use Russian tanks on Ukrainian territory arises, numbers written on the equipment are erased). That\u2019s why from time to time we see new tanks in front of the camera. In particular, one of the stormings of Donetsk airport was accompanied by the emergence of T-64 tanks bearing the 200 series, which are assigned to the \u201cSomali\u201d group: 210, 214, 215, 216, 217 and 248. This dispersion of numbers probably means that the rest of the tanks did not get into the frame yet.<\/p>\n<p>It is possible that captured tanks are added to the whole number of \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks. But we absolutely do not know the state in which these tanks get into separatists\u2019 hands, and whether they are restored or brought in for spare parts. That\u2019s why Russian footprints will lead to the main supply of new T-64 tanks to the Russian troops in Donbas. I think Ukrainian authorities should thank the Russian TV Channel \u201cLifeNews\u201d for its constant supply of priceless video materials proving the Russian participation in combat in Eastern Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HJ15sECdrlI<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/84.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"762\" height=\"427\" \/><\/p>\n<p>T-64 tank number 210. Kivi from Somali. H0200. Russia<\/p>\n<p>As practice shows, you can\u2019t count on any success by the restoration services of \u201cNovorossia\u201d. The terrorists have neither the forces, nor the equipment for the adequate restoration of tanks. As those video materials allow us to estimate the success of those who restore tanks, they can only start the engines of those tanks which are still able to move. I have not seen any completely restored tanks yet. And I do not believe in the restoration of a modern tank that was damaged in a battle, with only spanner and hammer in one\u2019s hands. The fate of one such \u201ccaptured\u201d T-64 is exemplary. During one of the usual shows from the \u201ctank base of the militants\u201d, the cameraman chose a perspective which became unsuccessful for terrorists themselves, because it showed the letters \u201cDPR\u201d on the tube of a \u201cdrowned and abandoned Ukrainian tank\u201d. This tank was then noticed in a tank restoration manufactory. It was not restored.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/92.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"824\" height=\"708\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The life of the tank number 17 was hard. Firstly, a story dedicated to the tanks of \u201cZaria\u201d battalion told that the battalion commander was killed in this tank. By looking at its state, we can assume that the tank remained in working condition. However, after a short period of time it received such damage that could well have been decommissioedn for scrap.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/101.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"826\" height=\"236\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Tank number 27, which entered Luhansk together with a \u201cparade\u201d column in July 2014 did not last long, either.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/1110.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"828\" height=\"249\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And now I will try to find out who this equipment was \u201ccaptured\u201d from.<\/p>\n<p>Starting from 11th to 50th<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/123.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"821\" height=\"459\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Number 12 was given to a captured tank of Armed Forces of Ukraine \u201cBulat\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/132.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"826\" height=\"464\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I do not know whether this was the first tank in terrorist\u2019s hands which received this number. But I know for sure that the look of this tank, which was really captured in a fight, is visibly different from the parade look of other separatists\u2019 tanks.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/142.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"827\" height=\"493\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/strong>After separatist tanks number 16 and 22 participated in a photo session in the fields of Rostov Oblast in Russia, it would be strange to talk about \u201ccaptures\u201d as the main source of supply for Russian aggressors on the territory of Ukraine. Numbers 15, 16, 17 were in the same column with the armored personnel carrier \u201cLavina\u201d, which does not prove their independence. Tanks numbering 34-38 were going together with an UAZ military vehicle that had Russian tactical signs on its doors. InformNapalm has already provided the information about these facts.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/14a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"795\" height=\"447\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The inscription \u201cUral\u201d, which is present on the side of tanks number 15 and 18, does not correspond with separatist \u201cNovorossia\u201d, since the Ural region is not included in the ATO zone yet. Besides that, number 18 is pictured close to an absolutely Russian T-72BM, what also contradicts the version that they were \u201ccaptured\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/14a18.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"766\" height=\"434\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/strong>So, the image created by the first 10 tanks has not changed much. Among the other 40 tanks, nearly all numbers were noticed in pictures, too. Some of them were even captured after they were destroyed! For example, in the episode about the first tank of the Leshyi unit there is a phrase that a captured Ukrainian tank was the first tank of this battalion. Meanwhile, few seconds before the demonstration of the captured T-64, a video shows another T-64 with the number 23, and it seems that it is destroyed. The speaker does not say a word about this tank. They probably wanted to show it as a Ukrainian tank, but they failed.<strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There was an interesting story with numbers 40 and 41<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9W17gucTmnk<\/p>\n<p>They were shown on the ORT Russian TV channel as tanks which were recently received by terrorists\u2019 units. Meanwhile tank number 41 had already been noticed in the same column of T-64s with number 30! ORT lied again. I have gotten tired counting their failures.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/152.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"788\" height=\"213\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The story of number 31 was not less funny. In a TV story about an optimistic commander with the nickname \u2018Irishman\u2019, this representative of restoration PR assures viewers that he receives equipment in this condition. \u201cThis tank was captured. Really captured!\u201d At the same time number 31 has not a hole in any block of its active armor and and no burns on the engine transmission compartment. It also has no engine<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HZG0mGmDeqI<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/161.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"818\" height=\"230\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You, Irishman, have your brains hit, not a tank. It would be OK if we could not see the number on the tank, but your cameraman showed us the number! And we could find out that not so long ago this tank was one of the most equipped tanks of the \u201cNovorossia\u201d group and a danger for all local lawyers.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/171.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"810\" height=\"262\" \/><\/p>\n<p>After these lies I am not surprised by anything even when I hear the same fairly tale, performed by a \u201ccossack\u201d regarding another tank.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/181.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"823\" height=\"236\" \/><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qeJaT4W0fdc<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis equipment was captured from Ukrs&#8230;\u201d \u2013 thanks, that\u2019s enough, we already know this tale. \u2018Irishman\u2019 does not need to continue. Then the story says that those stupid maintainers from \u201cNovorossia\u201d can not \u201cbring back to life\u201d even those tanks which only have their hoses cut! It was much easier for them to ask for another T-72 from Russian instead of this one!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/191.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"795\" height=\"373\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Remember, \u2018Irishman\u2019, it is hard to sit even on two chairs with only one butt, much less two tanks. So any conclusions about successful maintenance of tanks in Donbas could be thrown away or left for Russian TV, which, by the way, means the same.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/20.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"777\" height=\"637\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Tank number 29. There is an inscription saying H0200 \u2013 the tank is Russian (no comments)<\/p>\n<p>And finally about the end of this 40s series I would like to demonstrate tank number 32. From the one point of view this tank has nothing special: it also has some strange flags above, it shoots from behind the bushes just the same way<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UIYCAm3qKwk<\/p>\n<p>But if we look closer, we can notice those special numbers on its side which link it to Krasnoyarsk Tank Base in Russia!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/217.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"812\" height=\"331\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So the person who makes statements about 34 captured tanks among the terrorists\u2019 units will have to work hard on making up photo documents: the number of really captured tanks among 700-800 Russian tanks illegally fighting on the territory of Ukraine, is too low. By the way, the maximum number of separatists\u2019 tanks is determined not by the economic abilities of \u201cNovorossia\u201d or successes of Donbas heavy-equipment industry, but only by the availability of battle-worthy tanks within the Russian army, or within storehouses of that same army and by the wish of the Russian authorities.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/221.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"794\" height=\"426\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/231.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"822\" height=\"213\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Finally, I propose you to make a short trip back in history. I am sure that there are a lot of people among our readers who can hardly imagine what could be the capability of a group consisting of 700 tanks. That\u2019s OK. History is needed just for such cases. This example was taken from the history of World War II, which was studied by us so well. So, as of June 21, 1941 the number of tanks in the German tank group \u201cGotha\u201d, which \u00a0was included in Army Group South and which was concentrated against South-Western district \u00a0(for the most part present-day Ukraine) made 789 tanks. That was all! These tanks were concentrated in 5 tank divisions. Only 100 of these tanks were Panzer-4. The other side had 8 000 tanks, nearly 1000 of them were T-34 and KB tanks (which is more than the whole German group). Do you remember where Germans were till the end of summer 1941? Compare this historical fact with the present events in Ukraine and you can estimate the abilities of the Russian generals and bad-commanders-in-chief. An example is a little bit of different size, but it gives an overall impression about the level of armament and professionalism of the Russian occupation group in Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>Translated by Maksym Sviezhentsev<\/p>\n<p>Original article by Al Gri<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/5401-putevodytel-po-tankam-t-64-v-zone-ato-chast-2-skolko-otzhato\"> https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/5401-putevodytel-po-tankam-t-64-v-zone-ato-chast-2-skolko-otzhato<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Answering a question \u201cHow many tanks does Novorossia have?\u201d Russian Wikipedia says that it has 34 captured&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":3307,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[528,5],"tags":[171,331,347,348,252,240],"class_list":["post-3300","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-terrorussians","tag-russian-invasion","tag-russian-military-equipment","tag-t64","tag-t72","tag-tanks","tag-war-in-ukraine"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Tank Manual for the ATO zone. 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Taking into account Russian propaganda about the absence of any Russian weapons supplies, that should be it. Now let\u2019s look at the facts, which are a rather more serious argument.\r\n\r\nThe provence of the first ten \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks has already been laid out \u2013 those are old Russian T-64 and T-72 pieces. Should we add them to those 34? Of course not, since Wikipedia \u00a0covers only captured tanks. And, using videos published on the Internet showing tank columns with tanks bearing numbers 34-38, we can assume that the last number of separatists\u2019 tanks would have to be 47 (37+10). And here is when a miracle occurs: at the same time that people noticed columns of 30 tanks moving to Ukraine from the Russian direction, they included a tank with a number 65! No matter that was a T-72, it was also said to be a captured \u201cNovorossia\u201d tank. Moreover, looking at available pictures I have an impression that all of the numbers of the 50th and 60th series were painted only on T-72 tanks, which, as it is known, have never been captured from Ukraine. Wrong number, wrong tanks. It is not the first such mismatch and of course not the last one (or two)..\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/216.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"699\" height=\"529\" \/>\r\n\r\nMoreover, during the fighting for Ilovaysk, other surprises from the Kremlin appeared on the stage \u2013 tanks T-64 bearing 100 series numbers! 101, 102 (Krasnoyarsk), 105 and 108. That is more than three times more than the stated number of captured tanks.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/313.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"823\" height=\"494\" \/>\r\n\r\nA non-standard situation occurred with tank number 121.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/412.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"827\" height=\"211\" \/>\r\n\r\nIt seems that it used to be tank number 2. Then it was captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces and National Guard. This tank could possibly be non-transportable. And in such state it was really captured and has received number 121. Do you think that this tank joined the armed forces after it was captured? No! Another filming of separatists\u2019 tank reparation enterprise demonstrate us this tank staying inside the plant\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/510.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"818\" height=\"460\" \/>\r\n\r\nYou can look at the picture of the T-72 with the number 122. The difference can be seen very well.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/inform-napalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/66.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"824\" height=\"464\" \/>\r\n\r\nIf anybody \u00a0remembers, I was reporting that the number of \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks was over 300 in October. Later, that guess was confirmed by Ukrainian officials. Moreover \u2013 they announced that the number of tanks in Donbas had exceeded 400 in November. Taking into consideration that no matter the statements made by Russian President, Russian Foreign Minister, Russian Defense Minister and other officials, the supply of heavy equipment was not suspended for even an hour, then this progression of tank numbers in Donbas is natural. And so in late 2014 and early 2015, PM Arseniy Yatseniuk announced that the presumable number of \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks had reached 511 (!). This resulted in statements from the Russian side \u201cThis cannot be true! How can this happen?\u201d I can afflict some news upon both the Prime-Minister of Ukraine and those who believed that his statement is not true: by Autumn, the terrorist army of the so called Luhansk People\u2019s republic already had tanks with numbers 704 and 706!\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/76.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"829\" height=\"231\" \/>\r\n\r\nIt is possible that the difference of 200 tanks could be explained by attrition and with the fact that these numbers were put with regard to all available tanks, including those which are unfit for action. Those numbers are not final, either. However, keeping such a mass of tanks on the territory of two incomplete regions is a rather insecure thing. What if they get under fire? That\u2019s why a part of \u201cNovorossia\u201d group remains on Russian territory together with the regular Russian army equipment, ready for the direct invasion (when a need to use Russian tanks on Ukrainian territory arises, numbers written on the equipment are erased). That\u2019s why from time to time we see new tanks in front of the camera. In particular, one of the stormings of Donetsk airport was accompanied by the emergence of T-64 tanks bearing the 200 series, which are assigned to the \u201cSomali\u201d group: 210, 214, 215, 216, 217 and 248. This dispersion of numbers probably means that the rest of the tanks did not get into the frame yet.\r\n\r\nIt is possible that captured tanks are added to the whole number of \u201cNovorossia\u201d tanks. But we absolutely do not know the state in which these tanks get into separatists\u2019 hands, and whether they are restored or brought in for spare parts. That\u2019s why Russian footprints will lead to the main supply of new T-64 tanks to the Russian troops in Donbas. I think Ukrainian authorities should thank the Russian TV Channel \u201cLifeNews\u201d for its constant supply of priceless video materials proving the Russian participation in combat in Eastern Ukraine.\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HJ15sECdrlI\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/84.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"762\" height=\"427\" \/>\r\n\r\nT-64 tank number 210. Kivi from Somali. H0200. Russia\r\n\r\nAs practice shows, you can\u2019t count on any success by the restoration services of \u201cNovorossia\u201d. The terrorists have neither the forces, nor the equipment for the adequate restoration of tanks. As those video materials allow us to estimate the success of those who restore tanks, they can only start the engines of those tanks which are still able to move. I have not seen any completely restored tanks yet. And I do not believe in the restoration of a modern tank that was damaged in a battle, with only spanner and hammer in one\u2019s hands. The fate of one such \u201ccaptured\u201d T-64 is exemplary. During one of the usual shows from the \u201ctank base of the militants\u201d, the cameraman chose a perspective which became unsuccessful for terrorists themselves, because it showed the letters \u201cDPR\u201d on the tube of a \u201cdrowned and abandoned Ukrainian tank\u201d. This tank was then noticed in a tank restoration manufactory. It was not restored.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/92.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"824\" height=\"708\" \/>\r\n\r\nThe life of the tank number 17 was hard. Firstly, a story dedicated to the tanks of \u201cZaria\u201d battalion told that the battalion commander was killed in this tank. By looking at its state, we can assume that the tank remained in working condition. However, after a short period of time it received such damage that could well have been decommissioedn for scrap.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/101.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"826\" height=\"236\" \/>\r\n\r\nTank number 27, which entered Luhansk together with a \u201cparade\u201d column in July 2014 did not last long, either.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/1110.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"828\" height=\"249\" \/>\r\n\r\nAnd now I will try to find out who this equipment was \u201ccaptured\u201d from.\r\n\r\nStarting from 11th to 50th\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/123.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"821\" height=\"459\" \/>\r\n\r\nNumber 12 was given to a captured tank of Armed Forces of Ukraine \u201cBulat\u201d\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/132.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"826\" height=\"464\" \/>\r\n\r\nI do not know whether this was the first tank in terrorist\u2019s hands which received this number. But I know for sure that the look of this tank, which was really captured in a fight, is visibly different from the parade look of other separatists\u2019 tanks.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/142.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"827\" height=\"493\" \/>\r\n\r\n<strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/strong>After separatist tanks number 16 and 22 participated in a photo session in the fields of Rostov Oblast in Russia, it would be strange to talk about \u201ccaptures\u201d as the main source of supply for Russian aggressors on the territory of Ukraine. Numbers 15, 16, 17 were in the same column with the armored personnel carrier \u201cLavina\u201d, which does not prove their independence. Tanks numbering 34-38 were going together with an UAZ military vehicle that had Russian tactical signs on its doors. InformNapalm has already provided the information about these facts.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/14a.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"795\" height=\"447\" \/>\r\n\r\nThe inscription \u201cUral\u201d, which is present on the side of tanks number 15 and 18, does not correspond with separatist \u201cNovorossia\u201d, since the Ural region is not included in the ATO zone yet. Besides that, number 18 is pictured close to an absolutely Russian T-72BM, what also contradicts the version that they were \u201ccaptured\u201d.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/14a18.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"766\" height=\"434\" \/>\r\n\r\n<strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/strong>So, the image created by the first 10 tanks has not changed much. Among the other 40 tanks, nearly all numbers were noticed in pictures, too. Some of them were even captured after they were destroyed! For example, in the episode about the first tank of the Leshyi unit there is a phrase that a captured Ukrainian tank was the first tank of this battalion. Meanwhile, few seconds before the demonstration of the captured T-64, a video shows another T-64 with the number 23, and it seems that it is destroyed. The speaker does not say a word about this tank. They probably wanted to show it as a Ukrainian tank, but they failed.<strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/strong>\r\n\r\nThere was an interesting story with numbers 40 and 41\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9W17gucTmnk\r\n\r\nThey were shown on the ORT Russian TV channel as tanks which were recently received by terrorists\u2019 units. Meanwhile tank number 41 had already been noticed in the same column of T-64s with number 30! ORT lied again. I have gotten tired counting their failures.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/152.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"788\" height=\"213\" \/>\r\n\r\nThe story of number 31 was not less funny. In a TV story about an optimistic commander with the nickname \u2018Irishman\u2019, this representative of restoration PR assures viewers that he receives equipment in this condition. \u201cThis tank was captured. Really captured!\u201d At the same time number 31 has not a hole in any block of its active armor and and no burns on the engine transmission compartment. It also has no engine\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HZG0mGmDeqI\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/161.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"818\" height=\"230\" \/>\r\n\r\nYou, Irishman, have your brains hit, not a tank. It would be OK if we could not see the number on the tank, but your cameraman showed us the number! And we could find out that not so long ago this tank was one of the most equipped tanks of the \u201cNovorossia\u201d group and a danger for all local lawyers.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/171.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"810\" height=\"262\" \/>\r\n\r\nAfter these lies I am not surprised by anything even when I hear the same fairly tale, performed by a \u201ccossack\u201d regarding another tank.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/181.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"823\" height=\"236\" \/>\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qeJaT4W0fdc\r\n\r\n\u201cThis equipment was captured from Ukrs...\u201d \u2013 thanks, that\u2019s enough, we already know this tale. \u2018Irishman\u2019 does not need to continue. Then the story says that those stupid maintainers from \u201cNovorossia\u201d can not \u201cbring back to life\u201d even those tanks which only have their hoses cut! It was much easier for them to ask for another T-72 from Russian instead of this one!\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/191.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"795\" height=\"373\" \/>\r\n\r\nRemember, \u2018Irishman\u2019, it is hard to sit even on two chairs with only one butt, much less two tanks. So any conclusions about successful maintenance of tanks in Donbas could be thrown away or left for Russian TV, which, by the way, means the same.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/20.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"777\" height=\"637\" \/>\r\n\r\nTank number 29. There is an inscription saying H0200 \u2013 the tank is Russian (no comments)\r\n\r\nAnd finally about the end of this 40s series I would like to demonstrate tank number 32. From the one point of view this tank has nothing special: it also has some strange flags above, it shoots from behind the bushes just the same way\r\n\r\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UIYCAm3qKwk\r\n\r\nBut if we look closer, we can notice those special numbers on its side which link it to Krasnoyarsk Tank Base in Russia!\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/217.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"812\" height=\"331\" \/>\r\n\r\nSo the person who makes statements about 34 captured tanks among the terrorists\u2019 units will have to work hard on making up photo documents: the number of really captured tanks among 700-800 Russian tanks illegally fighting on the territory of Ukraine, is too low. By the way, the maximum number of separatists\u2019 tanks is determined not by the economic abilities of \u201cNovorossia\u201d or successes of Donbas heavy-equipment industry, but only by the availability of battle-worthy tanks within the Russian army, or within storehouses of that same army and by the wish of the Russian authorities.\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/221.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"794\" height=\"426\" \/>\r\n\r\n<img class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/231.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"822\" height=\"213\" \/>\r\n\r\nFinally, I propose you to make a short trip back in history. I am sure that there are a lot of people among our readers who can hardly imagine what could be the capability of a group consisting of 700 tanks. That\u2019s OK. History is needed just for such cases. This example was taken from the history of World War II, which was studied by us so well. So, as of June 21, 1941 the number of tanks in the German tank group \u201cGotha\u201d, which \u00a0was included in Army Group South and which was concentrated against South-Western district \u00a0(for the most part present-day Ukraine) made 789 tanks. That was all! These tanks were concentrated in 5 tank divisions. Only 100 of these tanks were Panzer-4. The other side had 8 000 tanks, nearly 1000 of them were T-34 and KB tanks (which is more than the whole German group). Do you remember where Germans were till the end of summer 1941? Compare this historical fact with the present events in Ukraine and you can estimate the abilities of the Russian generals and bad-commanders-in-chief. An example is a little bit of different size, but it gives an overall impression about the level of armament and professionalism of the Russian occupation group in Ukraine.\r\n\r\nTranslated by Maksym Sviezhentsev\r\n\r\nOriginal article by Al Gri\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/5401-putevodytel-po-tankam-t-64-v-zone-ato-chast-2-skolko-otzhato\"> https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/5401-putevodytel-po-tankam-t-64-v-zone-ato-chast-2-skolko-otzhato<\/a>\r\n\r\n&nbsp;","amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3300","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3300"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3300\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3605,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3300\/revisions\/3605"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3307"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3300"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3300"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3300"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}