{"id":3631,"date":"2015-12-20T16:48:54","date_gmt":"2015-12-20T16:48:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/?p=3631"},"modified":"2015-12-21T15:13:44","modified_gmt":"2015-12-21T15:13:44","slug":"3631-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/3631-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Sur la publication des donn\u00e9es des \u00e9quipages russes en Syrie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>InformNapalm a commenc\u00e9 cet automne une s\u00e9rie de publications sur les \u00e9quipages des avions participant \u00e0 la campagne de bombardement de cibles civiles en Syrie. Notre message \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s clair\u00a0: nous publions les informations sur les pilotes des raids identifi\u00e9s comme ne visant pas l\u2019\u00c9tat islamique. En fait, assez facile puisque 85% des raids visent d\u2019autres cibles que l\u2019EI.<\/p>\n<p>Les liens vers quelques uns des articles (en version anglaise) :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>RF 93686 <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/somebody-s-children-data-on-russian-su-30sm-aircraft-s-crew-in-syria-is-gathered\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/somebody-s-children-data-on-russian-su-30sm-aircraft-s-crew-in-syria-is-gathered\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RF 94110 Valeryi Chkalov: <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov26-syria-tu160\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov26-syria-tu160\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RF 94117, 94123 et 94127: <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov30-dataset-syria\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov30-dataset-syria\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RF 95103: <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/strikes-on-syria-crew-of-white-72-su-24m2-strike-aircraft-is-uncovered\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/strikes-on-syria-crew-of-white-72-su-24m2-strike-aircraft-is-uncovered\/<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>En passant, nous avions forc\u00e9ment identifi\u00e9 d\u00e8s le 24 novembre le pilote abattu par les Turcs d\u00e8s la publication de la premi\u00e8re photo sur Internet. Il \u00e9tait dans les avions que nous avions surveill\u00e9s. <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/informnapalm-has-preliminary-identified-a-pilot-of-downed-su-24\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/informnapalm-has-preliminary-identified-a-pilot-of-downed-su-24\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>La fi\u00e8re arm\u00e9e russe ne manque pas de lire notre site. Outre les statistiques (dont nous disposons) montrant les adresses des ordinateurs qui consultent nos pages, quelques \u00e9l\u00e9ments au dossier, un plut\u00f4t amusant, les deux autres plus s\u00e9rieux.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Le Kremlin s\u2019affole<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Le 15 octobre dernier, le porte-parole du pr\u00e9sident russe Dimitri Peskov s\u2019est fendu d\u2019une d\u00e9claration officielle qualifiant notre publication \u00ab\u00a0d\u2019inamicale\u00a0\u00bb. Il a \u00e9voqu\u00e9 le risque pour la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des pilotes. Bien que M. Peskov n\u2019ait pas r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 prononcer le nom d\u2019InformNapalm, nous le remercions en tous cas pour la publicit\u00e9 qu\u2019il nous a faite.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Les juristes aussi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Le site Vice News en a fait le sujet le plus complet pour l\u2019instant mais nous ne savions d\u00e9j\u00e0 en interne, la Russie a fait une demande officielle au gouvernement canadien pour faire effacer les donn\u00e9es qui se trouvent sur un serveur h\u00e9berg\u00e9 au Canada. \u00ab\u00a0\u00c0 ce stade, nous pouvons confirmer que la partie canadienne a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00fbment inform\u00e9e de cette affaire. La partie russe attend une r\u00e9action appropri\u00e9e sur cette question li\u00e9e \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb, a confirm\u00e9 un porte-parole de l&rsquo;ambassade de Russie cit\u00e9 par Vice News (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.vice.com\/article\/the-kremlin-asks-canada-to-take-down-info-identifying-pilots-bombing-the-islamic-state\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/news.vice.com\/article\/the-kremlin-asks-canada-to-take-down-info-identifying-pilots-bombing-the-islamic-state<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>La plupart des informations que nous publions sont pourtant des donn\u00e9es dites <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Renseignement_d'origine_source_ouverte\" target=\"_blank\">OSINT \u00ab\u00a0Open Source Intelligence\u00a0\u00bb<\/a>.\u00a0Nous ne faisons que republier sous forme compact\u00e9e ce qui est post\u00e9 sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux par les participants eux-m\u00eames. Le danger vient-il de nous? Poutine se trompe d\u2019ennemi. Une fois de plus\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. Les peintres russes en action<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Apr\u00e8s la publication par InformNapalm de donn\u00e9es, les \u00e9quipes de peintres de la f\u00e9d\u00e9ration de Russie sont entr\u00e9es en action. Le num\u00e9ro \u00ab\u00a026 blanc\u00a0\u00bb s\u2019est transform\u00e9 en \u00ab\u00a083 blanc\u00a0\u00bb. Dans quel but\u00a0? Nous accuser de voir des avions qui n\u2019existent pas\u00a0? En tous cas, le travail a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait avec n\u00e9gligence, comme souvent, ou par paresse. Car les avions ont plus qu\u2019un gros num\u00e9ro sur le c\u00f4t\u00e9, ils ont leur num\u00e9ro d\u2019immatriculation et lui n\u2019a pas chang\u00e9\u2026 Voil\u00e0 photo dont nous disposions\u00a0: <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.is\/RpnsU\">https:\/\/archive.is\/RpnsU<\/a>. Les donn\u00e9es sur l\u2019avion \u00ab\u00a026 blanc\u00a0\u00bb sont ici : <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/13469-su-24m\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/13469-su-24m\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3634\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3634\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210.jpg\" alt=\"ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210\" width=\"1280\" height=\"909\" srcset=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210-300x213.jpg 300w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210-768x545.jpg 768w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210-1024x727.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3635\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3635\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n.jpg\" alt=\"10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n\" width=\"366\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n.jpg 856w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n-300x165.jpg 300w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n-768x423.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 366px) 100vw, 366px\" \/> <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3637\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3637\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n.jpg\" alt=\"12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n\" width=\"368\" height=\"203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n.jpg 854w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n-300x165.jpg 300w, https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n-768x424.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 368px) 100vw, 368px\" \/> <\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Par l&rsquo;\u00e9quipe fran\u00e7aise d&rsquo;InformNapalm<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/11\/logo_inp.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3529\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3529 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/11\/logo_inp.png\" alt=\"logo_inp\" width=\"113\" height=\"44\" \/><\/a>Reproduction autoris\u00e9e uniquement en indiquant le nom de l&rsquo;auteur et en faisant r\u00e9f\u00e9rence \u00e0 notre site www.InformNapalm.org.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>InformNapalm a commenc\u00e9 cet automne une s\u00e9rie de publications sur les \u00e9quipages des avions participant \u00e0 la&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":81,"featured_media":3632,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,1,479,482],"tags":[476,191,440],"class_list":["post-3631","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-a-la-une","category-actualites","category-les-actualites","category-syrie","tag-pilotes","tag-russes","tag-syrie"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.9 - 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Notre message \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s clair\u00a0: nous publions les informations sur les pilotes des raids identifi\u00e9s comme ne visant pas l\u2019\u00c9tat islamique. En fait, assez facile puisque 85% des raids visent d\u2019autres cibles que l\u2019EI.\r\n\r\nLes liens vers quelques uns des articles (en version anglaise) :\r\n<ul>\r\n\t<li>RF 93686 <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/somebody-s-children-data-on-russian-su-30sm-aircraft-s-crew-in-syria-is-gathered\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/somebody-s-children-data-on-russian-su-30sm-aircraft-s-crew-in-syria-is-gathered\/<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>RF 94110 Valeryi Chkalov: <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov26-syria-tu160\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov26-syria-tu160\/<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>RF 94117, 94123 et 94127: <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov30-dataset-syria\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/nov30-dataset-syria\/<\/a><\/li>\r\n\t<li>RF 95103: <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/strikes-on-syria-crew-of-white-72-su-24m2-strike-aircraft-is-uncovered\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/strikes-on-syria-crew-of-white-72-su-24m2-strike-aircraft-is-uncovered\/<\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\nEn passant, nous avions forc\u00e9ment identifi\u00e9 d\u00e8s le 24 novembre le pilote abattu par les Turcs d\u00e8s la publication de la premi\u00e8re photo sur Internet. Il \u00e9tait dans les avions que nous avions surveill\u00e9s. <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/informnapalm-has-preliminary-identified-a-pilot-of-downed-su-24\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/en\/informnapalm-has-preliminary-identified-a-pilot-of-downed-su-24\/<\/a>\r\n\r\n&nbsp;\r\n\r\nLa fi\u00e8re arm\u00e9e russe ne manque pas de lire notre site. Outre les statistiques (dont nous disposons) montrant les adresses des ordinateurs qui consultent nos pages, quelques \u00e9l\u00e9ments au dossier, un plut\u00f4t amusant, les deux autres plus s\u00e9rieux.\r\n\r\n<strong>1. Le Kremlin s\u2019affole<\/strong>\r\n\r\nLe 15 octobre dernier, le porte-parole du pr\u00e9sident russe Dimitri Peskov s\u2019est fendu d\u2019une d\u00e9claration officielle qualifiant notre publication \u00ab\u00a0d\u2019inamicale\u00a0\u00bb. Il a \u00e9voqu\u00e9 le risque pour la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des pilotes. Bien que M. Peskov n\u2019ait pas r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 prononcer le nom d\u2019InformNapalm, nous le remercions en tous cas pour la publicit\u00e9 qu\u2019il nous a faite.\r\n\r\n<strong>2. Les juristes aussi<\/strong>\r\n\r\nLe site Vice News en a fait le sujet le plus complet pour l\u2019instant mais nous ne savions d\u00e9j\u00e0 en interne, la Russie a fait une demande officielle au gouvernement canadien pour faire effacer les donn\u00e9es qui se trouvent sur un serveur h\u00e9berg\u00e9 au Canada. \u00ab\u00a0\u00c0 ce stade, nous pouvons confirmer que la partie canadienne a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00fbment inform\u00e9e de cette affaire. La partie russe attend une r\u00e9action appropri\u00e9e sur cette question li\u00e9e \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9\", a confirm\u00e9 un porte-parole de l'ambassade de Russie cit\u00e9 par Vice News (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.vice.com\/article\/the-kremlin-asks-canada-to-take-down-info-identifying-pilots-bombing-the-islamic-state\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/news.vice.com\/article\/the-kremlin-asks-canada-to-take-down-info-identifying-pilots-bombing-the-islamic-state<\/a>).\r\n\r\nLa plupart des informations que nous publions sont pourtant des donn\u00e9es dites <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Renseignement_d'origine_source_ouverte\" target=\"_blank\">OSINT \u00ab\u00a0Open Source Intelligence\u00a0\u00bb<\/a>.\u00a0Nous ne faisons que republier sous forme compact\u00e9e ce qui est post\u00e9 sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux par les participants eux-m\u00eames. Le danger vient-il de nous? Poutine se trompe d\u2019ennemi. Une fois de plus\u2026\r\n\r\n<strong>3. Les peintres russes en action<\/strong>\r\n\r\nApr\u00e8s la publication par InformNapalm de donn\u00e9es, les \u00e9quipes de peintres de la f\u00e9d\u00e9ration de Russie sont entr\u00e9es en action. Le num\u00e9ro \u00ab\u00a026 blanc\u00a0\u00bb s\u2019est transform\u00e9 en \u00ab\u00a083 blanc\u00a0\u00bb. Dans quel but\u00a0? Nous accuser de voir des avions qui n\u2019existent pas\u00a0? En tous cas, le travail a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait avec n\u00e9gligence, comme souvent, ou par paresse. Car les avions ont plus qu\u2019un gros num\u00e9ro sur le c\u00f4t\u00e9, ils ont leur num\u00e9ro d\u2019immatriculation et lui n\u2019a pas chang\u00e9\u2026 Voil\u00e0 photo dont nous disposions\u00a0: <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.is\/RpnsU\">https:\/\/archive.is\/RpnsU<\/a>. Les donn\u00e9es sur l\u2019avion \u00ab\u00a026 blanc\u00a0\u00bb sont ici : <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/13469-su-24m\/\">https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/13469-su-24m\/<\/a>\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3634\"><img class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3634\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210.jpg\" alt=\"ef7dc3349283f27ea27d1e49f049e09d8ee52210\" width=\"1280\" height=\"909\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3635\"><img class=\"alignnone wp-image-3635\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n.jpg\" alt=\"10378972_179859689031880_4500574519377271207_n\" width=\"366\" height=\"202\" \/> <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3637\"><img class=\"alignnone wp-image-3637\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/12\/12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n.jpg\" alt=\"12369257_179859695698546_5193347584665856155_n\" width=\"368\" height=\"203\" \/> <\/a>\r\n\r\n&nbsp;\r\n\r\nPar l'\u00e9quipe fran\u00e7aise d'InformNapalm\r\n\r\n&nbsp;\r\n\r\n<hr \/>\r\n\r\n<a href=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/11\/logo_inp.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3529\"><img class=\"size-full wp-image-3529 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/11\/logo_inp.png\" alt=\"logo_inp\" width=\"113\" height=\"44\" \/><\/a>Reproduction autoris\u00e9e uniquement en indiquant le nom de l'auteur et en faisant r\u00e9f\u00e9rence \u00e0 notre site www.InformNapalm.org.","amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3631","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/81"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3631"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3631\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3647,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3631\/revisions\/3647"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3632"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3631"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3631"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/informnapalm.org\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3631"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}